[WhyNotHugo]

The issue isn't just the technical dependency.

It's also the fact that it forces each citizen to pay a few hundred Euros to companies which then campaign against their very rights.

Citizens get no support of any kind in case of issues, and has to enter a contractual agreement which is ridiculously asymmetrical, where the company has little to no responsibility of any kind, but has very ample rights to track the other party in extremely creepy ways.

[chadgpt3]

It doesn't force them to, strictly speaking - they also have the choice to sue the government

[spwa4]

But ... the alternative is that the government actually pays a bit of money to fix the situation! To support their solutions. To actually develop them for enough devices. To secure them ... Plus the services the government made are way more invasive than the Google/Apple ones.

In addition to the money, actually using them would be hundreds of times more complex, and they don't have the provisions Google has, for example accessibility and security services (like actually stopping people stealing accounts on a large scale). All of this can be done, easily even, but it isn't. Politicians don't want to.

https://www.itsme-id.com/business/platform/identification

https://france-identite.gouv.fr/

https://english.rekenkamer.nl/latest/news/2023/03/29/digital...

[intrasight]

I just dont buy the argument that it would be that expensive for the governments to provide certified keychain fobs that provide hardware based identification.

[wqaatwt]

That was an option for the past 15+ tears at least in some EU countries. Its just not very convenient (garbage tier software they bought didn’t help either).

[haagch]

Here in Germany everyone who has an ID card, which is basically everyone, already has a secure chip for this purpose.

[nradov]

It's pretty expensive to deal with all of the technical support and identity verification work when people lose their devices and need to have credentials reset.

[deaux]

It's even more expensive to have your country's digital ID held hostage by the US or its big tech players.

[lokar]

How do the apps bootstrap identity? Do they just use Apple/google (that seems really bad), or do they have you do some verification and input a token into the app somehow?

[WaitWaitWha]

or, not force people into mandatory digital ID wallets at all.