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You really look at my original comment and think - "yeah that deserves a BIIIIG round of downvotes?" And then I come back and engaged and then you think I'm digging myself in a hole?

I'm having a substantive debate on a difficult issue with different perspectives.

Woof.

And to be clear, I did engage with his point, if only indirectly.

Saying "noyb" isn't the EU is like saying a major influencer like Tucker Carlson isn't the U.S. government. Technically correct, but underrating the influence and alignment it has inside the bloc.

"Yes, noyb (None Of Your Business) is highly popular and influential in the EU. Founded in 2017 in Vienna by prominent privacy advocate Max Schrems, the non-profit organization functions as a leading strategic litigation center that enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)."

It really pains me that even after all this effort, you get downvoted 'for cause.' the discussion unfortunately continues to get worse here.