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by alterom 29 days ago
>murder by an armed group

Oh yes, how could we have forgotten the crucial detail that every single person in the group had their hands on the trigger.

Wait, that's because it didn't happen.

One individual fired their weapon. (And whether that's a murder is very questionable, but let's set that aside).

Nobody else should've been facing prosecution in this case.
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blockmarker 29 days ago
Following that principle, Bin Laden wouldn't be responsible for 9/11, ISIS shouldn't have been restricted or attacked in any way, and the mafia should be fully legal. That would be absurd.
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alterom 28 days ago
Great logical thinking!

Now pray tell why Bin Laden is responsible for 9/11, but 1 billion Muslims aren't.

They're in the same "group", right?

They have "safehouses" (mosques), "radical zines" (Quran), organized leadership (imams), regular gatherings, shared goals, group chats, and so on.

Clearly the entirety of 1B Muslims "conspired" to murder people on 9/11 and should all face harsh punishment "to send a message".

That's not at all absurd, isn't it?

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9x39 29 days ago
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.41...

I only have the .gov version, but 20-30 rounds were fired, Song was convicted as the attacker apparently and Baumann and Morris were evidently armed as well (the woods gunmen). It wasn’t the whole group but doesn’t appear to be just one individual.

They were successfully tied together by the prosecution as conspirators to the satisfaction of juries by their shared mission, chats, organization, papers, safe houses, and prior meetings among other things.

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alterom 28 days ago
> 20-30 rounds were fired

By whom?

> Baumann and Morris were evidently armed as well

And, did they fire any of the shots at the scene?

> It wasn’t the whole group but doesn’t appear to be just one individual.

So, it was one individual beyond reasonable doubt.

The rest is pure speculation.

>They were successfully tied together by the prosecution as conspirators to the satisfaction of juries

Yes, you are saying the same thing we already know: that there was a mistrial.

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