[bilekas]

Can you define "serious programming"? Because I use it to implement things I COULD go and figure out like algorithms or test generation or evaluations etc, the "serious" programming I tend to do myself. That is what I'm paid for.

[overgard]

Serious programming is using as many agents and loops as possible because anthropic needs you to spend more on tokens

[Roark66]

Serious programming is dealing with a large knowledge surface area.

So not "implement me a shading algorithm"

But more like: make an multi user app running on a k8 cluster, design the whole thing to be indempotent, scalable, easy to deploy remotely via ipmi/pxe boot.

Then see how it makes stupid mistakes along the way.

Today's AI is pretty amazing when it comes to fixing narrow problems (or creating Web apps with no infra). Give it anything where it needs to go online, download some helm templates and look through them to figure out parameters, as well as write an app and it will make lots of mistakes in seemingly simple stuff.

Opus seems to be the model that works the best with this.