[gpm]

> that supports freedom ... for everyone

Unless you happen to be of Somalian descent in Sweden. Then you should be ripped away from the only home you've ever known, indeed possibly the only country you've ever been in, and sent to a foreign country you have no citizenship in, where you have no home, don't understand the language, know no one, and be forced to try and survive.

[throwawaypath]

This is entirely false, not every country is the USA. Sweden does not have birthright citizenship. Most Somalis and their children in Sweden are not Swedish citizens.

To add, they all retain their Somali citizenship.

[gpm]

Nowhere did I say anything about them being Swedish citizens - though I'll note if that distinction mattered at all (it doesn't) "most" wouldn't be good enough.

I said they weren't necessarily Somali citizens. Somali citizenship when born outside the country is more complicated than that and will not be universal.

Either way legal status is just one of many reasons why this would be a horrific crime against humanity requiring prosecution by the Hague under the Rome statutes. You're still ripping an entire ethnic group away from their homes.

[throwawaypath]

>Nowhere did I say anything about them being Swedish citizens - though I'll note if that distinction mattered at all (it doesn't)

It does matter, Somalis are not Swedes. They don't belong in Sweden, much the same as Swedes don't belong in Somalia.

>You're still ripping an entire ethnic group away from their homes.

Sweden is not the home of Somalis.

[peterfirefly]

> don't understand the language

Seriously? It's not like the Somalis have been in Sweden that long.

[Hikikomori]

Their children might not speak their language.

[peterfirefly]

Most of those children wouldn't be able to communicate with their own parents, if that were the case.

Somalis are usually not spread out among the natives. They tend to clump together in ethnic enclaves where it is very easy to learn Somali (and where life is unpleasant for the unfortunate child who doesn't learn it).

[Hikikomori]

And some parents do learn Swedish so their children might not know their parents native language. Or have you inspected every Somalian family in Sweden? It might not be that many, but doesn't make his point any less true.

[peterfirefly]

I'd say it makes it "fewer" true ;)

Surely we can agree that if such kids exist then they must be very, very few in number?

[Hikikomori]

So its okay then I guess?

[account42]

But they do.

That's actually one of the biggest problems with mass migration - that all incentives go against integration into the host culture.