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by dopidopHN2
29 days ago
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I should have clarify, I'm part of a local group, itself part of a network of groups. We don't do politics, we do privacy and security advocacies. It means we work with DSA, MAGA, Libertarian. Allies that normie would known: ACLU, EFF. I talk with those folks weekly. (they talk a lot, themselve ) >There's more to politics than just going to town hall meetings or sending emails or making phone calls! I should have clarify that I despite those circus so much that its our last resort. Its when we need to get them on the recort saying something. 1on1 meeting are always more productive. > if you can get a local government agency to officially back you up, all the better. I should have clarify sorry: I live in the US. That seems unlikely, to say the least. |
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Which is great! Though my understanding is a big weakness of the ACLU/EFF/etc... crowd is that they typically pigeonhole themselves. The ACLU immolated its hard-earned partisan-but-principled reputation in the past decade and the EFF has a reputation of keeping non-lefty-libertarians at a very long arm's length away.
Beyond that - those groups tend to be sclerotic in their coalition membership. That inflexibility isn't always great!
Take the (largely) Progressive-funded Effective Altruist movement - in particular the Center for AI Safety. They are single-minded in their political goals, going so far as to enlist the help of Glenn Beck and Steve-Bannon-associate Joe Allen. They have spun off additional organizations to cater their pro-AI-regulation framing and messaging to different audiences: conservative and biblical messaging to evangelicals, fighting social media disinformation and fascism to progressives, and a hefty dose of civic grassroots rhetoric for their social media presence.
They have goals and are willing to make unsavory temporary alliances if it means enacting regulation.
I do not see such an appetite to influence politics from most of internet civil liberties organizations.
> I should have clarify sorry: I live in the US. That seems unlikely, to say the least.
And? Corporate lobbyists do this lobbying-by-proxy crap with decent regularity. Heck - Nintendo is known to have laundered some of its lobbying through NCMEC years back and credit card companies and banks have long laundered their wishlist through various LEAs. Turns out if you get a bureaucrat to convince FBI leadership of the importance of your pet cause and the nexus it has to their agency, legislative pushes in Congress tends to follow.
That all said - it works both ways and not necessarily with any negative connotations. The DoJ and FTC in administrations-past have had representatives come to hacker conventions to describe the collaborative efforts they've had with members of the community - to include lobbying congress for legislative change.
Getting government agencies on your side as a partner in affecting policy change is relevant only if the change is seen as relevant to a given agency's mission.