[Balgair]

Prop 13 y'all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13

Any discussion of the cost of housing in CA has to include this. Want to know why the property market there is so distorted?

It's Prop 13.

TLDR: Property taxes only increase 2%/yr (sorta, its complicated) and reset upon sale of the property. So current owners are highly incentivized to stay in place and not move. Supply is held down, so prices rise.

[jason_oster]

FWIW, San Francisco was one of only three counties that voted against Prop 13.

[Sohcahtoa82]

> and reset upon sale of the property

So glad Oregon doesn't do this. We cap property tax growth by 3%/year, and it doesn't reset upon sale.

Resetting upon sale just creates so many problems.

[d4ng]

Maybe trade volume is held down, but why would supply be held down? Surely if someone sells, they buy/rent elsewhere in quick succession?

[Balgair]

The house they would be buying would come with a much higher tax bill.

Personal anecdata: My folks bought their house for ~70k, it is now worth ~1.5M. The taxes are about 600/year for them, they have no mortgage, paid off decades ago. If they were to try to buy their house again, it would be ~8k/mo just in taxes and mortgage. Moving out of the metro isn't an option as no medical services really exist outside of metros in CA anymore. Same for many other services.

Many older homeowners in CA cannot afford to live there anymore, essentially. They are in a gap/trap.

Yes, you could revoke Prop 13 and let things adjust, but even incremental steps would cause wild swings in property values as the market readjusted, likely causing knock on economic effects in the whole US economy.

[fragmede]

The way New York does it is they create exemptions like SCHE for those over the age of 65.