[delta_p_delta_x]

> no .NET

Not quite sure about this. .NET is a superb platform, easy to write reasonably good code, huge standard library, well-maintained, many languages supporting a wide variety of paradigms (C#, VB, F#, PowerShell, C++). .NET is one of Microsoft's success stories.

[CamouflagedKiwi]

It's also kind of pointless. Almost immediately, something will be installed that will require installing the .NET runtime, maybe multiple versions of it.

If the argument is to try to prohibit it, then it just won't work as a platform, because too much existing software won't work on it. There's a lot of garbage I'd love to not have (all the stupid hardware config apps all the manufacturers push on you) but just having that functionality not work can't be the answer.

[delta_p_delta_x]

> all the stupid hardware config apps

Similar pet peeve, and I think the solution to this is the platform setting, adopting, and enforcing conventions. Something like what has happened with notebook trackpads[1] about a decade ago, and more recently RGB peripherals[2]—no more cancerous giant Electron app to move a few sliders and set an RGB hex code.

[1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/win32/input-precis...

[2]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/xbox/gdk/docs/features/com...

[not_a9]

> no more cancerous giant Electron app to move a few sliders and set an RGB hex code

That will also ship vulnerable drivers.

[vovavili]

>Almost immediately, something will be installed that will require installing the .NET runtime, maybe multiple versions of it.

That's because Windows ships with an ancient .NET 4.8.1 by default. Purely a mistake on Microsoft's part not to bundle modern .NET with their product and force software packaging hell.

[CamouflagedKiwi]

Sure, that's only made worse by the suggestion here to not install any version of it at all.

[bmurphy1976]

It should be installable, just via a package management system. You choose what you need. I think OP hasn't thought this through completely so he's missing this nuance in his post.

That said, knowing Microsoft they WOULD release something like this but cripple it by doing something stupid like disallowing the use of virtualization technology, even as an installed package.

[delta_p_delta_x]

> It should be installable, just via a package management system

I disagree. .NET is fundamental to the Windows platform. It's like having a Python runtime installed by default in some Linux distros, which makes sense for that distribution's use-case.

[contextfree]

Windows doesn't have any modern version of .NET installed by default though, only old .NET Framework versions

[vitorgrs]

old UWP .NET it's also installed by default... It Appx package system, and it was/is delivered on the store

[jimbokun]

I think they just mean no .NET by default. Not to stop supporting it altogether, just that those who want it will need to download it.