[caseysoftware]

> "If we taught systems thinking in schools"

In the US, the public school system can barely teach basic reading and math. And the teachers don't appear to understand 2nd or 3rd order thinking themselves so therefore are unlikely to be able to teach it.

Teaching systems thinking may be an effective solution but it needs an effective delivery system to test it.

[criddell]

Have you talked to any high school students or teachers lately? The ones I have (via my kids) are all articulate, thoughtful, and kind. It gives me a lot of hope for the future.

[caseysoftware]

What's the average look like?

Are you speaking of Austin proper or Round Rock, West Lake, Cedar Park, or similar?

[hattmall]

I mean, not surprisingly, this is entirely geographic and system dependent. Do your high school teachers (or elementary) have to wear body cameras, practice administering narcan, and how to clear the chamber of a discovered gun, or do they get to 3D print parts for their classroom and go on field trips?

[criddell]

It's the outliers that are geographic and system dependent. Rank the schools and exclude outliers at both extremes. The remaining schools aren't filled with teachers acting like prison guards watching over illiterate students.

[forlorn_mammoth]

Alas, the teachers are typically pretty hampered by policies they cannot control.

They are not the thing to blame. It's system thinking all the way down.