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by gf000 1 hour ago
It doesn't suck, people are just emotional beings and have some "football team" level takes on technical stuff as well.

The very same people that hate systemd for "being a monolith" and limiting choice are usually also love X and hate Wayland where they can manage to explain how being a monolith is suddenly good.

Especially that systemd is pretty modular - at least the actual systemd program running as PID 1. It also refers to a project with many optional modules running under the same name, but that's like KDE having a file manager and complaining that plasma DE is a monolith.
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nubinetwork 56 minutes ago
Both systemd and wayland were quite broken when they were first being pushed onto everyone... they're mostly fine now.
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gf000 26 minutes ago
It's the bazaar. No one is pushing anything on you, you have a wrong mental model if you think anything can be pushed.
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graemep 1 hour ago
That is a straw man. Plenty of people have different opinions on different issues.

> but that's like KDE having a file manager and complaining that plasma DE is a monolith

On the other hand it would be very rare to use Plasma without the KDE file manger. You lose all sorts of integration. Similarly, once you use systemd init its going to be a lot easier to replace everything else with the systemd equivalent.

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