[jorisw]

What's so hostile about it?

They can't _add_ features on top of regular Bluetooth connectivity, that they choose to only offer on platforms they're able to fully control and QA ?

Is even just making a feature exclusive really that 'hostile'? A company can't offer benefits for going with several of their products?

Or you mean they _are_ hostile because you're _assuming_ they will try to patch this?

[mrheosuper]

They did not release any documents about their data model that is used to control their headphones. TBF almost every company does that, but unlike Apple, almost all of them have app on both platform(IOS/Android) to manage their devices so there is little reason to reverse engineer at first place.

[vlod]

In regards to Apple hostility. There's obviously the whole app store shenanigans where devs often feel that they have arbitrary rules. DHH has talked about it as has Tim Sweeney.

I listened to Mark Zuck on Rogan about his experience with Apple connecting his Ray Bands to the AirPods. [0]

In that interview, he suggests they won't help with the integration (for stupid reasons) and that he expects that'll come out with a competing product.

I think being a dev and working with the Apple eco (outside of 'normal') is a pita. Yes it's subjective. I'm hesitant to even purchase Apple's excellent hardware for this reason.

[0]: https://youtu.be/7k1ehaE0bdU?si=HB-ZcXNRtB1ox6dx&t=8463

[jorisw]

You're commenting on different Apple practices that could labeled as 'hostile'.

I'm strictly talking about Apple tacking on extra AirPods features on iOS devices that they're able to control and QA.

And fuck Zuck.

[vlod]

Sure on first point.

However Zuck is directly addressing Apple hostility regarding Airpods, irrespective of how you feel about him/meta.