[rahimnathwani]

You're conflating two different types of work, which each have a different purpose:

- making a change to your own mind and/or body (studying math, lifting weights)

- making a change to the world (optimizing ad placement, operating a forklift truck)

Do you think gyms should allow people to lift heavy weights with forklift trucks, so that they can work like they do in the real world?

[onion2k]

That's an amusing analogy, but it's conflating university as a purely academic pursuit (learn these things in order to know the things) with university as vocational training (learn these things so you can get a job.) As people have to pay for their degree through loans now, people see it as a means to get the career they want. It's not learning any more. It's training.

So, to continue the analogy, a degree is the equivalent of a forklift truck license, and people do want to drive their forklift truck to the gym. Because they're paying to be able to do that.

[rahimnathwani]

If you use AI to complete all your assignments and exams, then getting a degree is less like getting a forklift truck licence (which indicates you've learned some useful skill that few people have) and more like getting a Waymo account (showing that you're competent enough to enter your credit card details and destination into a mobile app).

[underdeserver]

Undergraduate degrees are not vocational in any of the leading universities in any field. They are sometimes a prerequisite to vocational training, but aren't one in and of themselves.

There's a pretty good reason for that - the base assumption is that training in fundamentals, methods and ways of thinking is something you won't get anywhere else.