[chillfox]

So... how's that any different from using American stuff for those of us in the rest of the world?

Over the last decade, the US has been way more unreliable than China. There's been a near constant negative impact from the US doing something.

At least with China, we are very good at winning trade wars with them here in Australia.

[lenerdenator]

You might feel differently if you were a Filipino or Vietnamese fisherman whose family relied on the income from the stocks of the South China Sea, or a Uighur person living in Western China, or a Ukrainian soldier who has to deal with drones built with Chinese components, or a democracy advocate in Hong Kong, or arguably, a person who had plans for 2020-2021.

Or, on a more local note, an Australian automotive worker who worked for a company that figured out 10 years ago that they wouldn't be able to pay him a decent wage, compete with the then-upcoming Chinese EVs, and remain profitable.

[Paradigm2020]

You might feel different if you're a palestinian who's getting american bombs dropped on him, or an afghani collateral damage or...

There is no good guys in general, and whataboutism and making the scope bigger doesn't help.

The thing is that if the models you are building on are open source whether hosted on chinese / american / whatever service at least give you an option to switch provider easier vs a fable / chatgpt 5.6 that gets banned for none americans etc...

2 years ago america would have had the branding/perception advantage but right now that is well and truly gone...