[mariusor]

> you have little choice

I personally disagree with that very hard. Deontology begins at home.

[bigstrat2003]

Yep. You always have a choice. If cheating is wrong, it does not become acceptable just because everyone else is doing it.

[gedy]

Agreed, but it feels like a Pyrrhic victory to not cheat, then get lower scores than the cheaters.

[dgellow]

Are those exams a contest? Like, they will only take the best N percentiles? Because if not, you’re competing only against yourself and should ignore others’ grades

[ewild]

It's an incredibly privileged Pov to say it isn't a contest. These kids entire futures are impacted by these scores.

[ndriscoll]

Ivy League kids tend to not be facing some extreme economic precarity. In fact a decent number of them likely have enough family wealth to not need to work a day in their lives. The others are unlikely to face too much trouble over a few Bs at Brown.

[wrs]

Well, not once the scores become meaningless because everyone assumes they cheated.

[none2585]

I did not go to an Ivy League but many of my classes at an alright school were graded on a curve and so C was average, B/D was one standard deviation above/below, and A/F was two.

[em-bee]

if they are graded on a curve then they are competing against each other.

[1270018080]

> Are those exams a contest?

Yes