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by weatherlite 3 hours ago
Nightmare because they're always right and the A.I second guessing is always wrong, or because they just don't like to be second guessed?
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There’s more than two options here. It was already difficult to deal with self diagnosis for doctors, now we have a machine that outputs recommendations, and does it with confidence whether it’s correct or not.

The same issues that were present with search-engine self diagnosis are still present with LLMs. If you provide Google with an incomplete list of symptoms and can’t interpret the information you find correctly, you will likely get an incorrect diagnosis. The same is true for LLM output.

There are quite a few disclaimers everywhere that soften confidence: "always ask a medical specialist", "I'm not a doctor", "this could have been this or that but really not sure", etc.
No one cares about this, especially those who believe the machine. It's just there for the provider to avoid responsibility.
Nightmare because users approach LLMs with the false confidence that they're always right, and present LLM outputs as fact to Doctors who have to waste time explaining that it's wrong most of the time. It hurts more than it helps.
Its a nightmare because it erodes trust. Doctors are not "always right" which is why "always get a second opinion" is codified in culture.

But AI's problem is that its completely full of shit, sometimes, and the people most qualified to evaluate whether its full of shit are the doctors, not the patients, but just like OP's original article, patients are left feeling like their second opinion from AI might be more trustworthy than their doctors opinion.

The notion that only doctors can verify is false! Doctors are better at verification but normal people can also verify. This is just empirically true.

Examples of things normal people can verify

- procedural errors that Claude can capture like some blatantly high dosage (grams instead of milligrams)

- outdated treatment plan, maybe there’s a credible new treatment plan that’s been used for years but the doctors were not updated

- literally being injected homeopathic drugs (takes no smart person to flag this)

Let’s stop talking as if doctors have a divine right here. And let’s accept some agency.

Nightmare because the AI is just generating a random text that fits the question.
This is not a fair assessment of what AI is doing.

Studies have found that newer reasoning AIs are about as good at diagnosing illness from a written description of symptoms as doctors are.

Granted, it cannot actually examine a patient, so we're not replacing doctors anytime soon. But your view is obsolete.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz4433

They are using the “gold standard for the evaluation of expert medical computing systems” not a proxy for what a doctor actually does when diagnosing someone.

It may have some utility after diagnosis, but this test doesn’t demonstrate utility for patients.

It will also tell you you're God and/or a toaster. If you're gonna let benchmarks convince you to listen to an LLM on matters of health it's your funeral, just don't get anyone else killed with you please.
But I, SCP-426, am a toaster.
I feel the same when visiting a doctor in Canada. In that 2 minutes I have with they in one appointment per year I hear a standard text.
Not quite. An LLM generates text that would likely follow. The sky is… “blue”. A patient in pain with a bone protruding from their shin has a… “broken leg”.

The more training data, the more questions it can answer with a reasonable degree of probability of accuracy.

Throwing away a potentially useful analysis just because it’s probabilistic seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

This is a very peculiar use of the word "random".