[vips7L]

I think you’re massively under valuing people who have giant Steam libraries and want to be able to use them in a console like experience.

Lots of people don’t want to buy a ps5 and split ecosystems. Lots of people don’t want to tinker with sunshine.

[lowbloodsugar]

Define lots? You are describing someone who: 1/ has spent many years building a steam collection (has $$$) and 2/ has a collection of console-playable games but never bought a console to play them. (Suggests doesn't have $$$). and 3/ doesn't already have, or desire building, a SFF upgradable PC?

Like, the sweet spot is they have to: 1. have $$$ of games, 2. have $1200 to spend on a second PC and 3. not have, nor desire to have, an upgradeable SFF PC.

$1200 is a 5070ti or a 5080 (just). We know they have a PC already (they have $$$ steam games). If I have a PC already and I play games, and it doesn't have a 5080, then I'm spending my $1200 on the 5080, not a living room console. So, now we're talking about someone who either has a 5080, or plays the kind of casual games that don't need a 5080. My experience is that those kind of games aren't great on a TV and a joystick. I'm not playing Factorio, Civ, Rimworld or Citizen Sleeper on a TV with a controller!

I've got quite a steam collection, but they are all non-console games. That's the distinction for whether I bought it on steam or for a console.

Is there a large demographic who bought console games on steam because they don't own a console?

Anyway, valve themselves have the demographics, so presumably they see a target market. I just don't know what it is! =)

[vips7L]

Yeah man I think your logic is massively flawed. You’re making assumptions based on your own preferences. Not every gamer is going to prefer the latest gpu and yes there are plenty of gamers whose libraries are filled with games that are meant for controllers and consoles, in fact I’d argue that this is more common than your choices.