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by shomp 2 hours ago
call and email your congresspeoples, and tell them not to go through with this
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Then donate millions in campaign contributions to ensure they actually care at all what you think!
Coordinated opposition campaigns against misinformed and dangerous legislation has been effective in stopping bad laws [1]. After a website blackout, including a Wikipedia shutdown, lawmakers in Washington decided not to proceed with the Stop Online Privacy Act in 2012.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

Money is a poor substitute for people who care.

The only people who think otherwise are terminally online losers who have never organized anything larger than a birthday party.

Are you talking from experience? What legislation have you organised?
Espiallat ($9.5 million) vs Darializa (350k)

Money matters but a popular movement is more powerful still in some places look up DSA

Isn't it interesting how they're doing it in every anglo country simultaneously? How does that work?
Because the internet is global and the negative effects of the internet are happening everywhere at the same time. Also, politicians look at other countries for ideas.
At global conferences like Davos, where national leaders and policy makers go to schmooze and exchange ideas, this idea has been discussed for years. I’m sure there has been some subsequent cross-border coordination and discussion.

For instance:

https://idtechwire.com/spains-pm-proposes-mandatory-digital-...

https://www.weforum.org/publications/reimagining-digital-id/

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2021/01/davos-agenda-digital...

Everyone ignores stuff like this because of people like Alex Jones who make it seem like a lunatic conspiracy theory. But these conferences happen, and they do influence policy. It’s not a “cabal” that issues orders—many participants are national leaders bringing their perspectives (see the link above about Sanchez)—but it does have an impact.

The banal truth is that many different world leaders have talked each other into this after years of discussion on the proper way to “manage” the Internet. They see cyberspace as a threat to top-down technocratic control and view Internet-enabled populism (aka democracy) as something to be quashed.

> [World leaders] see cyberspace as a threat to top-down technocratic control and view Internet-enabled populism (aka democracy) as something to be quashed.

This has been true ever since the creation of the internet and web.

It's what the original 90s crypto wars were about: the right of individuals to access strong encryption to preserve the privacy of their communications from the government.

Absent that, pandora's box opens.

Age KYC is just the next fight against encryption and privacy dressed up in "for the children" clothes.

Strong encryption always has (and always will) facilitate criminal and illegal activity. Tough tits.

Law enforcement and intelligence agencies should work within the bounds of individual rights, not adjust them for convenience.

If the price of individual freedom^ is that it's harder to track and prosecute child exploitation, drug distribution, and mass terror attacks, then that's the way it needs to be.

^ "Individual freedom" as distinct from corporate freedom. Fuck non-human legal entities' rights to access encryption, aside from on behalf of their users.

Because it is an organized attack. The lobbyists got their orders, now they pull it through. It is kind of fascinating to see though - I bet many people don't realise this coordinated attack. To me it is blatantly easy to notice. I am glad to not be the only one here.
One cannot use a handwavey "organized" and "coordinated" without a subject. Who specifically do you propose is ordering this?
We do not need to lose our rights to privacy because people want to control what their kids do and see. (I'm not even convinced this is true - this is likely just a convenient lie told by the politicians, because I don't see parents clamoring for this.)

We're below replacement rate, so it's not like most people are even having kids, anyway. Yet we have to give up our freedom for other people to raise little Christian tots (or whatever the motivation for this is billed as)?

I grew up in a Deep South Protestant household. Having access to the unfiltered internet got me interested in STEM. Bumping into occasional shock sites and porn as a preteen did not turn me into a satanist cannibal.

Keeping "Kids Safe" is a LIE.

This is about putting collars on every US citizen.

They'll filter you into groups.

They'll control what loans and jobs you can get.

They'll use this information to blackmail you should you ever run for office or gain wealth or power.

This is a threat to democracy and personal liberty.

Child safety is a LIE.

When did you grow up? The internet in 2006 and 2026 were nothing alike.
The internet in 1986 and 1996 was nothing like 2006.

2006 is on the other side of the event horizon of "Don't be evil."

Yeah, the 2026 internet is way safer
Go on...
and have your children on the phone telling them to not let companies store and leak their information before they are old enough to consent to this.

If they are asking you to leave a message, have your kids leave the message.