[FridgeSeal]

If you’re fine with a future like Warhammer 40k where we all have to be Tech Priests making prayers and performing opaque rituals to get things out of the machine god because we no longer understand things, that’s fine, but that’s not a future the rest of us want.

[simonh]

It’s not a matter of what we want or don’t want, or are fine with. The universe doesn’t owe us explanations. Of course I’d prefer to understand everything, or as much as possible, but we don’t always get what we want.

[zmgsabst]

You didn’t respond to his point:

In the 40k universe, modern humanity is below not just their peak of technological prowess, but even their peak of pre-AI prowess. Because they landed in a valley of superstition involving machines they do not understand — and have no way to rebuild towards their peak, without yet further losses by moving away from the magical machines.

That has nothing to do with the universe at large — and everything to do with human society and choices. Which we do have control over.

[simonh]

I’m familiar with 40K, I played Laserburn back in the 80s. I met Bryan Ansel before 40K existed.

The comment I replied to equivocated between absolute limits to comprehensibility to humans and sociologically constructed limits, implying that thinking there may be the former makes someone ‘fine with’ the latter. That’s nonsense.

[6510]

The problem is that you cant stop it. If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it. Thankfully we understand almost nothing already so it will be easy to adapt - and surrender to the will of the machine.