[coffeemug]

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.)

EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

[tick_tock_tick]

> I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

Should ever new "weapon" invented require a new act of Congress? We've considered software subject this act since the 90s.

If everyone making AI is screaming up and down that we are in an AI arms race creating dangerous entities that will determine the fate of the world is the government just supposed to ignore them?

[tzs]

> Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives.

Every one of those is by a regulatory agency that was explicitly empowered by Congress to do such regulation.

[to11mtm]

until it isn't, i.e. certain rulings over the last couple years...

[morkalork]

You're talking about the EPA yes? Such ridiculousness

[sigmar]

The ATF was created by an act of congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968

[standardUser]

All of the agencies responsible for those regulations were created by and get their funding from Congress. Currently, they're asleep at the wheel. Or a better idiom might be "cowering in the corner".

[GolfPopper]

I would say, "sitting smugly astride the monster's back, confident that they will never be fed to it".

[UncleEntity]

Fairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have tons of agencies responsible for regulating all the things.

Plus, they're relying on the "math is a weapon" law to ban "export" of the models.

[delichon]

Congress passed the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778) in the Ford administration and it has been applied to software since at least the Clinton administration.

[conartist6]

isn't this materially different in that it creates a kind of class system within the US?

[micromacrofoot]

the continued exploits of the same kind of class system the US has always had

[skywhopper]

It has never taken a constitutional amendment to make something illegal.

[alpinisme]

Prohibition was the 18th amendment

[onionisafruit]

slavery required the 13th amendment

[jiggawatts]

"Malboro cigarettes may once again be sold, but Newport remains banned for everyone except large purchasers that have paid the appropriate bri... fees."

[verelo]

None of those things are knowledge. I think theres something specific around limiting access to knowledge and capabilities that makes this feel insidious.

[Jblx2]

Information is covered by ITAR, so that's not new. You can illegally export information about an ITAR covered item by just allowing a foreign national the potential to see an item. They don't even have to prove the foreign national actually did see it.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-22/chapter-I/subchapter-M...