[felooboolooomba]

> they can never be taken away

Your right to 3d print whatever you want is about to be taken away (in California).

What software you can run on your computer can already be restricted.

Absolutely everything can be taken away. The simplest way to remove open models is probably to declare them a tool that terrorists could use. Crazy? Yes, the world is totally crazy these days.

[redox99]

That only affects people in California. Whereas Fable being shut down affects people all over the world.

[anticorporate]

There's also, importantly, a distinction between what are told we can no longer use, and what can actually be taken away.

Open source and open hardware can be called illegal by a government, but, if we collectively invest our energy into open alternatives, they can't be taken away in the same sense. I can build a RepRap printer and I can use a local AI model. It's on all of us to make sure that the open alternatives are viable, maybe in the current global political reality now more than ever.

Making something illegal isn't a disincentive for everyone. When they start banning books, some of us start assembling printing presses.

[echoangle]

Believe me, if the government wants to stop you from having access to something like that, they could do it. Just give people some incentive to report you and make really harsh punishments and everyone will be thinking really hard about how bad they want have access.

[anticorporate]

Well, sure. The same could be said of any freedom they want to take away. The responsibility is on us to preserve those freedoms. Free software, open hardware, right to repair, privacy tools, etc. will all be the weapons of the people in the fight against totalitarianism.

[dvngnt_]

They can stop piracy or child predators. what makes you think they can prevent access to running models that require no internet access to run

[bijowo1676]

the government is not God, they cant do much beyond declaring anything bad.

It is on people to realize we have the ultimate power and oppose the overreach of government in all ways we can to keep our freedoms.

Freedom is not free, after all

[vitally3643]

Just like declaring piracy illegal stopped piracy and removed pirated materials from everyone's computers.

Everything cannot, in fact, be taken away. Don't propagandize yourself. Some things, like information, are free. Not even China can prevent all its citizens from accessing Western internet. USGov simply does not have the resources to find and audit every hard drive and USB stick in the country for illegal files. The internet cannot be censored 100% without literally cutting every cable and confiscating every radio.

The software that runs on my computer cannot, in fact, be restricted. It can be declared illegal, but there literally is no mechanism by which it can be enforced other than a government goon standing over my shoulder 24/7.

Some freedoms really cannot be removed without utterly implausible amounts of effort. Arguing otherwise is helping to erode freedom. So stop it.

[Simran-B]

Remote attestation?

[advael]

On PCs, the best you could really do is restrict access to certain websites on certain boxes with TPMs the users can't disable. Remote attestation can lock people out of your stuff, but not out of their own stuff. For that you need control of the device. Of course, most mobile phones aren't easy for the user to have control of, but most PCs still are, so long as you scrub the rootkits (e.g. windows) off 'em

[bijowo1676]

it doesnt even work in the government's own servers to protect their own shit

[jgalt212]

> What software you can run on your computer can already be restricted.

Are laws that are inherently unenforceable even laws?