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by virissimo 34 days ago
> MRIs are actually widely available in most cities at reasonable cost

Typical wait time for an MRI in Canada is 2 months.

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Yes, that is a economic & public health policy problem that really needs to be solved. We can look to Japan as example of what's possible, they have invested in nearly twice the number of scanners per capita of Canada, and they can get same-day MRIs for $50, roughly speaking.
> they can get same-day MRIs for $50

I’d like to see a breakdown on how they do that. Staffing alone is a multiple of that.

Romania: for a head MRI on demand - not more than a few days and less than 400 Euros.
That’s more believable than $50, and isn’t out of whack with what’s achievable where I am (New Zealand).
From what I know, seems like a mix of medical price fixing by the gov't, adoption of lower cost hardware, and universal healthcare. There's apparently less bureaucracy, perhaps because there is no need for negotiation at every step of the process?
There are big costs. The hardware, the facility (RF cage and chillers), power, water, staff, RIS/PACS etc etc.

I can’t see how you can do it for $50. Does the ‘universal healthcare’ bit mean that the government is paying most the bill and it’s $50 out of pocket?

Yes, $50 was a rough out-of-pocket estimate, the amortized cost per scan for operation alone is probably on the order of hundreds of dollars per scan, assuming high utilization.

One funny thing about MRIs is the magnet is always on, so there could be some clever ways to reduce costs running them after hours.

> there could be some clever ways to reduce costs running them after hours.

It seems like a dedicated round the clock facility housing at least dozens of MRI machines ought to offer significant economies of scale. I wonder if I'm wrong about that or if there's some other reason we don't see this approach taken by governments.

Depends for what reason. I trained in Canada. Studies are triaged priority 1 through 4 in most provinces. Nowhere in Canada is a high priority MRI waiting 2 months.