[verdverm]

The US needs to build out energy infra like China, already >2x more total generation capacity (~1/3 of world total). Putting data centers aside, if America wants to bring manufacturing back, it will need energy to build things. RE: data centers, we do need to be more mindful of where they go and the resources they consume. We should force them to use water efficient cooling (more expensive for them) and support the buildout of the required energy gen. Utah does not seem an appropriate place for such a large data center.

The question is do we want to be a Petrostate or an Electrostate

https://youtu.be/gLnxzkiB-GI?is=CHj3J-ARp0iBq_NB (Adam Tooze prezi)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electrici...

[phlipski]

Most US citizens want to be an electrostate. This current administration wants to go back in time and try to be a petrostate....

[verdverm]

That may not be true for much longer given the (disappointing) trend

2020 - 79 : 20 (renewables : fossil fuel)

2026 - 57 : 42

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2026/04/03/americans-shi...

[spencerflem]

Which is why it was a mistake to let Republicans vote

[verdverm]

All people (should) have the right to vote. If you don't like they way they vote, persuade them. This culture of political domination is at the core of our issues.