[seviu]

Dont worry, chinese models will distill frontier ones, quite fast.

The excuse they give is borderline childish. I get the thing about slow rollout, make sure partners get to fix the bugs, etc...

But bad actors are hard working motivated entities with tens of thousand of fake ids, and american citizens working for them, for pennies.

All while the ones like or you sit at a crossfire which is borderline useless.

I cant wait to see what Qwen did with the massive distillation they made out of Opus 4.8 and Fable aka Mythos aka pretty sure they jailbroke it.

[cmrdporcupine]

Anybody who used codex or claude for the last few months is sitting on directories full of session logs that -- with the right motivation and effort -- can be massages and used for fine tuning or reinforcement training on any large model.

[15155]

This is nothing a few felony indictments can't fix.

[bloppe]

Pretty sure Chinese police will not cooperate with a US indictment

[15155]

No, but the Americans facilitating their access sure as hell will.

[Sammi]

You'll need to make all US customers provide personal IDs for access first. I'm not American, but I do often hear how attached Americans can be to their personal firearms and how against providing their personal ID they can be.

[forshaper]

That was before 2020, I guess. Americans are happy to provide whatever now, afaict

[15155]

What do you think login.gov is for?

Also, "all" customers? No, only customers that access the restricted models.