[999900000999]

Parents taking responsibility for their kids.

I grew up in a neighborhood full of drug dealers. Street sellers, not the classy Walter White kind.

Ironically being on a computer all day kept me out of trouble.

But with these laws in place I guess you might as well start doing stupid ish in real life.

[kulahan]

I'm glad computers came in and saved you from your otherwise-inevitable life of cartel involvement, but I don't see what this has to do with the en-masse mental poisoning of children? I'm not even talking about politics yet. Cyber-bullying is insane.

Either way, I genuinely don't believe "let's just hope parents... start doing better?" is a solution.

[999900000999]

Parents do need to do better.

Work on building self confidence.

My family relentlessly called me stupid and lazy to the point where a cyberbully would of been an upgrade.

You can always turn your phone off.

A lot of God awful parents treat their kids like trash and blame everyone else when Timmy doesn't get into Harvard.

Of all the people I've met with rough upbringings not a single one blamed anything outside of bad parenting.

Being a parent ( especially a step parent) is extremely hard.

100 years ago bad parents blamed dime novels.

50 years ago it was rock music.

[II2II]

The thing is, those dealers can end up in jail for selling drugs.

More to the point, if a kid walked into a convenience store and the clerk sold them a pack of cigarettes, the clerk wouldn't get off the hook by claiming, "well, the parents are responsible for their kids." I'm also not sure how one would justify holding parents legally liable for crimes they played no role in committing.

I'm not saying that I agree with these laws. They appear to be taking things too far. But that has more to do with there being no clear way to define sites that are only of interest to adults (no gatekeeping needed) and sites that should be restricted to adults.

[999900000999]

>I'm also not sure how one would justify holding parents legally liable for crimes they played no role in committing.

This is already a thing.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/charging-parents-for-childs...

Once upon a time they idea that Americans would surrender all of their God Given rights for an illusion of security was considered absurd, but that's where we're at.

[kelseyfrog]

So what happens when parents don't?

Too bad?

[iamnothere]

What happens when parents don’t lock the liquor cabinet? When they smoke in front of their kids? When they leave porn laying on the table?

Too bad!

[Jtarii]

>What happens when parents don’t lock the liquor cabinet? When they smoke in front of their kids? When they leave porn laying on the table?

The state can't control those things, it can control putting an age restriction on certain websites. Unless you are advocating for the complete abolition of all age restrictions throughout society.

[kulahan]

You need an ID to access cigarettes and liquor and porn (from a physical store)...

[kelseyfrog]

How is it more like leaving a liquor cabinet open than not buckling them up with seatbelts?

I'm glad we're discussing parental liability. It seems no one else is advocating for "social media access is criminal neglect," so I appreciate the novelty.