[dmitrygr]

You can control what ENTERS your borders, not what happens outside of them. You are free to cut the cables, but not to dictate to those outside your house how to live on the other end of those cables. Else we'll all be living under the union of the rules of everyone. You sure you want that? Iran bans a lot of things you might like, as does china, and russia, and usa.

[vrganj]

As soon as you send that data into my country, it is happening inside my borders.

You can buy magic mushrooms semi legally in the Netherlands. Doesn't mean you won't get in trouble if you send them from the Netherlands to another country.

[dmitrygr]

So you DO want iran controlling what your LLC does if it is internet connected in any way (which everything is now).

[vrganj]

Or they could just not serve Iran? But yeah, if you operate in a country you should probably follow their laws. I don't see how that's controversial

[dmitrygr]

In the days of the internet "operate in a country" == "exist". Eg: [1] UK has tried to enforce its laws even onto organizations who literally exist in USA only. Their argument: you exist, internet exists, so you are still subject to us. So tell me, how can one exist today and not "operate" in every country where internet exists. And once you see that there is no way, how do you propose your logic for regulation to work, other than by everyone being subject to everyone's rules?

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

Further suggested reading: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.284...

[hdgvhicv]

America doesn’t just fine businesses doing businesses in American and breaking the law. It tries to extradite people who have never been to America to torture them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri

[vrganj]

I couldn't find anything about VPNs in the link you shared.

If that is the case, I disagree with it. But if you serve the UK market, you gotta follow UK law. That doesn't seem unreasonable, does it?

I see you removed the VPN reference in your edit and it made your argument quite a bit weaker imo.

Just because 4Chan is in the US, doesn't mean they don't send their data to the UK.

As soon as they do, they are subject to UK law. Quite simple. If they don't want to be, they can stop sending their data there. See also the magic mushroom parallel from earlier.

> So tell me, how can one exist today and not "operate" in every country where internet exists

You could IP block by geo for example? Seems pretty straightforward.

[dmitrygr]

So I have to actively work and expend energy to not be subject to some random whim? curious view.