[WarmWash]

The US government subsidizes US AI labs via incentives.

The CCP is the Chinese AI labs.

I am not aware of any US government AI labs (besides perhaps a small spattering of national lab research or the like)

There is very large difference that your either need to be poorly informed or purposely driving an agenda to miss.

[mcmcmc]

I’m sad for you that propaganda has destroyed your critical thinking ability. Qwen is an Alibaba product, Deepseek is from a private Chinese hedge fund. Those are not the CCP. The Chinese economy has vastly evolved in the last decades. The CCP doesn’t have any more special control over the Chinese labs than the US has over our labs. The White House can do whatever it wants to keep labs in line. Fable just got pulled because the US gov ordered Anthropic not to give access to any foreign nationals, including Anthropic employees.

[WarmWash]

Please, show me one Chinese court ruling against the CCP and I will believe you. Anthropic can go to court and have the order overturned if it isn't legal (with legality being born from elected representatives), it happens all the time.

Just because Xi Jinping lets companies play mock "private businesses", does not mean there actually is private business. At the end of the day, the CCP still has final say in everything, and Xi has final say in the party. There is no constitution (in the US judges swear to the constitution, in China they swear to the party), and there is no balance of powers.

It's just one guy, running experiments the way he see's fit.

You mentioned propaganda, take heed.

[mcmcmc]

How many court orders has the US govt completely ignored? Do the bought and paid for members of SCOTUS ever rule against Trump or their donors?

> It's just one guy, running experiments the way he see's fit.

This is moronic. Exercising a degree of control does not equate to making every decision and running every organization.

[WarmWash]

Well they shot down his landmark tariffs for one, and the next court ordered refunds so...I'd be delighted if you could share cases of the government ignoring court orders (not to be confused with challenging them, like any functioning legal system has).

Also, obviously Xi doesn't make every decision. No dictator ever did that because it's impossible to do. The distinction is that no one has ever (or has the ability) to over rule what Xi decides. So if Xi has a stroke and wants DeepSeek to start manufacturing underwear, they will be ordering sewing machines tomorrow. Any sense of "private" is a farce.

[mcmcmc]

You know the rights to those tariff refunds were all bought up by Howard Lutnick’s old company for pennies on the dollar right? It’s just another grift

[WarmWash]

I'm envious of your ability to believe whatever you want.