[illithid0]

This is a classic logical error.

It is not the job of the citizenry to prove that surveillance doesn't curb terrorism in order to preserve privacy. It is the job of the government to prove that surveillance DOES curb terrorism to such a degree that privacy MUST be degraded.

Only then we can have a conversation.

[vivzkestrel]

but has there ever been a study conducted like say on arxiv or something that tells you what or what is not achieved by surveillance?