[dualvariable]

"Information wants to be free"

Anthropic profited from training its models on all kinds of copyrighted information, live by the sword, die by the sword...

Their model weights, training data, training methods, etc are all going to leak to China over time.

Nobody on a site named _Hacker_ news should be all that upset about this.

[XorNot]

Seriously AI companies complaining about fair use is the biggest case of crocodile tears I can think of. Irony has been dead for a while, but they dug up the corpse and set it on fire anyway.

[digitaltrees]

Totally agree.

[tedd4u]

Don't forget insider threat vector, too.

[dualvariable]

I deliberately didn't mention any threat vector.

I would assume China is working on liberating Anthropic weights through the battle-tested strategy of finding someone in a privileged position and getting them laid, etc.

[Perepiska]

Los ricos también lloran (1979)

[toobulkeh]

You’re mistaking the original term hacker, a tinkerer of systems, for the black hat variety.

[dualvariable]

Hackers didn't use to spend a lot of time defending trillion-dollar corporations and their intellectual property rights.

[tancop]

black and white hat is relative. someone breaking into a state run database in a dictatorship and stealing documents that prove some opposition leader was murdered would be a black hat criminal if you ask their government. a hacker jailbreaking a phone to let people fix it without expensive official service is a black hat to the company. we should really switch to saying offensive and defensive or something else that doesnt come with moral implications. maybe lawful and chaotic.

[vasco]

What true hackers really did was discuss the definition of the word and how to use it

[eimrine]

I suppose his point was that the both parties are black hats.

[drekipus]

There is no real difference

[usefulcat]

It’s true that the meanings of words can change over time. Whether or not that’s a good thing is another question entirely.

[collingreen]

Yes there is.

Care to elaborate on your side or should we just leave it there?

[zem]

there is, the original hackers built thinks, they didn't attempt to destroy or coopt them

[anigbrowl]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box