[throwawayb2025]

Just curious to know what is acceptable proportionate response for:

1. What was done on October 7? Assuming that some kind of response from Israel was acceptable.

2. Against Israel for what Israel is doing now? Assuming that Israel is over reacting.

Maybe if we can come with a framework for what is acceptable, world can force certain behavior.

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[tonks]

It's always analysis of Israel's response and zero soul searching on the Palestinian side.

[throwawayb2025]

Didn't understand your point. Point 2 was for suffering of Palestinian. What is the appropriate response that should be given to Israel for what they did post October 7.

[HDThoreaun]

Oct 7th was a border security failure. The appropriate response was reinforcing the border and ensuring that gazans cant escape. Letting the gazans out was one of the biggest security blunders of the 21st century. Israel knew the government of gaza wants israel wiped off the map, this stuff isnt a surprise or anything. Israel absolutely had the capability of keeping the gazans in, they blew it. I see that this is close to victim blaming, but the thing is that both sides are victims here, all the arguments involve victim blaming. Israel already tried occupying gaza, they knew it doesnt work and would just make things worse.

Arguments can certainly be made about the hostages, but I think its clear that the gazan war was not really about the hostages.