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by artemonster 35 days ago
and just read these awful comments defending this nonsense and shifting the blame. so much arrogance its nauseating
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Germans will say they're not very patriotic, but really the way German patriotism manifests is a resistance to outside criticism paired with a stubborn insistence that things ought not change.
More like a stubborn insistence that their way is right and ultimately, the only way.
I haven’t seen it manifest any differently elsewhere?
Americans on the Internet will often heartily agree with foreigners about all kinds of things that are shit in America and need to be changed: public transit, walkability, health care costs, university costs, money in politics, lack of basic geographic knowledge, etc.

Of course there are some more conservative folks who may be more resistant to those critiques, but the average American will just nod along. If you mention on this website that healthcare in the US can be insanely expensive, you'll mostly see agreement from Americans.

>f you mention on this website that healthcare in the US can be insanely expensive, you'll mostly see agreement from Americans.

Because conservatives/progressives agree on this. What they disagree on is how to fix it.

Americans on the internet don't have confederate flags up and vote for Trump either. If you wanted to talk about how patriotism manifests on the internet, say so.
Americans IRL only rarely have Confederate flags these days. If you want to discuss the extreme right, say so.
I see them IRL in Washington state, which makes them unthinkably common IMO. But it is hilarious to see you respond so defensively to my comment saying Americans dislike criticism of their country.
Yeah but those guys are also complaining about shit and agree with people from outside who make those same complaints. Its just that they are wackos.
There's a German proverb I enjoy. "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen", which roughly means "The world shall be healed through the German spirit/nature."

It implies German cultural and/or moral superiority and was used in earnest during the 19th century by nationalists. It's use often has a more ironic character now, but it's proponents are alive and well.

Yeah that is the idea which materialized in getting colonies at the turn of the previous century and in the actions of the third empire. I don't think that sentiment is shared by a sizable population anymore.
German arrogance, namely that we‘re doing it best and that our way is the only way, is still alive and kicking.
Maybe, but also every past government has started with the promise of cutting bureaucracy down. One of the point is to improve the situation for startups. So this is a well-known issue and the idea that this is already the optimum is not believed in the general population.