I would say that depends of the company's legal form. If you have an "AG" or "GmbH" you get double taxed anyway, one time the company and than again your salary. So if you have an Estonian equevilant of a GmbH/AG your company will get taxed by Estonia and your salary by Germany. The Estonian E-Residency Website at least confirms my assumption but in case of Germany I could be very well wrong of course...
I think you misunderstood double taxation .
You probably understood it as taxation on corporate and personal level.
But in this context it means taxation in two jurisdiction (Estonia,Germany)
> So if you have an Estonian equevilant of a GmbH/AG your company will get taxed by Estonia and your salary by Germany
Estonian CIT is 0%. If you pay dividends (which is not required), or if you pay director’s salary (optional if you’re a one-man company without a ton of admin), those will be taxed in Estonia. If you only pay yourself for your actual services – no taxes in Estonia.
Germany might tax your Estonian company if they determine the company is a German resident. Check with your accountant.
Technically yeah. But you don’t have to distribute profits, and paying yourself for your (non-admin) services is not taxed in Estonia.
You might have to pay yourself a director’s salary. That would indeed be taxed at 22%, but you still only have to bill for the time you actually do admin / management work. So if you spend, say, 5 days a month on it and 15 days a month on everything else, the effective rate would work out to 5,5%.
And for a single shareholder company with no employees and under 2M € annual revenue (and probably some other criteria like not having employees or veing liable for VAT or something) it is the general practice to just not pay the director’s salary at all.
(This is probably a gross oversimplification, definitely ask a real accountant about the details.)
If you do business in Germany you are evading taxes just by the fact of doing business. Everything and anything you make belongs to the government. It is an unfortunate loophole in the law that temporarily permits you to steal some of your profit back from the government where it rightfully belongs.
Yeah, this is sarcasm, but not really. The practical reality is that it simply makes no sense to incorporate in Germany. For example, the OP missed six months of opportunity just to please the bureaucracy and it's not even the end of it.
While I won't dispute that 6 months is outrageous, OP has not spent them to "please the bureaucracy", they spent them to escape personal liability should the company go bankrupt. The rest of the post is bemoaning the fact the German government won't let them also permanently reduce the company liability below 25k.
> If you don't like the laws/rules then just leave Germany
Or change something. But yeah, I agree that leaving a country that you don't like is a good solution. I did that myself.
> There is no justification for tax evasion
The basics of philosophy behind taxation state exactly the opposite: it is an obligation of a business to evade as much tax as possible - as long as it is legal.
It is how Russia become what it is: we all be said «If you don't like new law/regulation, go to your beloved USA, you are not a patriot and must be punished».
I'm sorry, but Germany is democratic country, and citizen of the country can choose by definition.
Leave your motherland because your government is crazy in one way or another? It is nonsense.
In reality, sometimes people need to do it (because it becomes too dangerous to stay), but it should not be this way. In any country.
This will most likely result in Permanent establishment (PE) in Germany (e.g due to fixed place of business).
That means Germany will tax the company anything which is attributable to the German guy.
https://www.fin.ee/en/double-taxation-agreements