[delegate]

This is and has always been inevitable with tech. Politics can only postpone people's inherent desire to control and dominate and powerful tech makes this easier and cheaper.

We (the tech people) have built the perfect tools to centralize and automate control and we're still doing it, mostly for free.

The way things are going, our imagination is probably too poor to visualize the kind of dystopia this can/will eventually grow into.

It's highly unlikely that the general population will revolt against this - fear makes most people docile and compliant, self censoring and obedient. There are many examples of this in the world right now and it's only going to get worse.

We can only push back to postpone this, but the tide is against us and too few really care about these things.

[RetroTechie]

> This is and has always been inevitable with tech.

Keyword here is "centralized". Financial interests have pushed gatekeeper-style setups into a crapshoot.

Therefore (part of) the solution is decentralization. P2P everything, web of trust, etc. 'Benevolent' dictators don't cut it anymore.

[microtonal]

The way things are going, our imagination is probably too poor to visualize the kind of dystopia this can/will eventually grow into.

I think intelligent people are able to visualize the dystopia this creates. They just prioritize their personal paycheck over best societal outcomes. It's very easy to delude yourself into thinking what you are doing is great, given enough money.

There are people working on the Meta analytics panopticon, there are people working on the Google analytics panopticon, there are people working on optimizing Google Android/Apple remote attestation to remove the last escape hatches from total surveillance, heck there are even people working at Palantir, despite knowing what this all leads to.

Many of us helped building this.

It's highly unlikely that the general population will revolt against this - fear makes most people docile and compliant, self censoring and obedient.

Even if it was not direct fear of what surveillance is supposed to solve, a lot of people in Western countries are more occupied with being able to afford housing and making ends meet. If that doesn't work, they can always fall back to some good ol' hatred of immigrants ("the immigrants are taking all your houses and jobs!"). It's sad.