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by dgellow 2 hours ago
If that becomes current law I don’t want to ever hear about Europe being over-regulated compared to the US…
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There are several snarky knee-jerk reactions in the comments here, but state assemblies pass things all the time that ultimately fail to pass or get vetoed. Now the public will debate it, contact their state senators to give their opinions...it's all part of the process.
California constantly passes all kinds of weird, pointless, and burdensome gun laws. There are so many of them, and they're so poorly written, that no lawyer in the state who can confidently tell you what's legal and what isn't until a court chimes in. There's no meaningful process around any of that.

The only thing that's different about this one is that it mentions a technology geeks care about. But I doubt that's enough. As another commenter noted, you can no longer hide behind "we have no technology to distinguish between guns and non-guns". We have AI that's supposedly PhD-level and will soon automate all jobs. Looking at STL files sounds like a job.

That's actually one of my fears about LLMs: they make thought policing cheap. There are profound privacy and cost barriers to having a Facebook employee review all your private messages. There are no such barriers to having a robot watch all your IMs in real time.

> There are no such barriers to having a robot watch all your IMs in real time.

Or your literal thoughts depending on how far we're able to push neuralink type technology.

A law like this just passed in New York State.

If this fails it'll be because the tech industry expresses disapproval too loudly to ignore.

The legislators don't care about the underlying criticism. Almost no legislators have ever used a 3d printer or written any software, beyond maybe simple assigned programs if they had a required intro-to-programming course. Few are "tech" people. The rest don't understand this technology, or any technology really, beyond it being a black box for specific purposes. They see 3d printing and plastic guns and think something must be done, because the 3d printing black boxes are producing dangerous weapons.

Are these laws already on the books places like Europe, Japan with strict gun control laws?
Good laws for gun control probably are enough to cover also 3D printed guns.
Americans are not allowed to buy Kinder eggs.
You have to compare Europe to California.
Calieurnia. :)
california is the europe of the united states, for better or for worse.
Describing California as "the Europe of the United States" ignores its essential narcissism -- defining California in terms of Europe would be met with contemptuous pashaws, even if the balkanized ethnic enclaves found there, at a scale larger than anywhere in the U.S. -- not even New York, resemble Europe. The Asian communities will also wonder if you can find Vietnam on a map -- would guess you think it is in the Mediterranean.
Regulatory speaking, California is America's Europe
Europe favors comprehensive regulation, with laws or directives dealing with families of related issues. California does regulation in a very American way, with individual bills targeting specific issues. It just does more of that than the average state.
Without the robust train system, but that is changing slowly.
California is in America, not Europe, whether you wish to accept that or not.
Well that's one state, and the one that fancies itself as the most European in spirit, at that.
It's 1/10th the US population though, and probably 1/2 the population of US 3d printing nerds.
They can cross state lines, take a trip to Vegas, visit the casinos and makerspaces...
and I would imagine close to 100% of the US 3d printing nerds that live there have the means to easily move to another state and continue their 3d printing nerdom.

There is a reason why California is leading the nation in migration out of the state.

Because real estate is super expensive because everyone keeps moving there?