[MobiusHorizons]

I think we agree on that. Special interest groups proactively push for things, they don't just opt out and hope people notice. I am arguing for lobbying and special interest groups (that's why I suggested the EFF as an example, although certainly not the only one).

[rockskon]

Coalitions help. Getting local government agencies on your side to promote local government policy helps.

Same concept applies to federal.