[miyoji]

I agree that there has been progress, but if you look at really mature fields and look at the transformations they've been through and the level of understanding that the highest level practitioners have, and compare it to computer programming... I think we were at maybe 2-3% in 1992 and we're maybe up to 7-9% now?

We're still in the alchemy stages. Real masters can do nuclear chemistry.

Another way to look at it: there have been a lot of arguments on this website about whether or not LLMs are conscious. I think they obviously aren't, but I don't think there's anything special about human brains vs computer chips that means that conscious computers is impossible.

I think a "very good" computer programmer should be able to program consciousness. Not program something like an LLM that trains itself into consciousness, the actual process itself.

We are nowhere close.