[john_strinlai]

>mythical sweet-spot solutions?

there are thousands of comments on these threads every time it comes up. there's tons of what i consider reasonable solutions proposed. there's examples below, too, which don't require face scans.

>Concretely, half the websites I visit from the UK want me to either scan my face or upload ID documents

yeah, i agree that really sucks.

[Retr0id]

I've yet to see one I consider reasonable.

[john_strinlai]

if you think even the client-side "yes im 18" on OS setup proposals are unreasonable, i dont know what to say.

[Retr0id]

Privacy-wise I think they're completely acceptable, but in terms of circumvention I don't think the politicians will be satisfied. It's barely a step up from the "I'm over 18" buttons on websites.

[john_strinlai]

>It's barely a step up from the "I'm over 18" buttons on websites.

i think its a pretty decent step up from that, but i know what you mean.

>I don't think the politicians will be satisfied.

and that circles back to my original point. the politicians aren't satisfied with a "mostly effective" solution (e.g. OS-enforced age attestation) as they are with literally every other law, and instead are taking advantage of the issue to justify mass surveillance.

[intended]

I believe kids will always find circumvention pathways.

There is a signaling function these laws serve: things are the products we consider acceptable in society. We have these rules for cigarettes, booze, and vapes.

That said, privacy being sacrificed for signals, is an unacceptable trade, especially when better solutions can be crafted.

[throw93939r]

Tha is what pede file would also say. We need to secrefise privacy, but of politicians and police officers to see why they love pede pholes so much!

Do not support daughter fuckers in goverment!