[hsuduebc2]

If you try very hard, you can understand the reason for bombardment, at least from the BEGINNING. Surely, not the reason for killing these poor children.

But I never came to better conclusion about West Bank annexation that that it is pure imperialism. Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. I'm still not quite sure what is the purpose, there is really not enough land or it's all just bs?

I wonder if this ends up Flagged.

[Protostome]

Children died because of their leaders way of conducting wars. Firing from schools, hospitals and resendential buildings.

Just ask yourself this - why there were no bomb shelters in Gaza , but plenty of tunnels? clearly, there was no shortage of concrete. No one of the leaders of Gaza cared about civilian casualties, they even saw it as a desirable outcome.

[eagleal]

> Firing from schools, hospitals and resendential buildings.

I really don't want to descend into countless counterexamples, but that's how virtually every military or militia wages war, including the IDF. I assume your confusion on this issue may be due to a lack of familiarity with the subject.

Usually never ever has anything to do with malevolence (eg. in an attempt to use the counter strike as a propaganda story). More often, it's just a matter of convenience, logistics, and the realities of operating in populated areas.

If there's one thing that CIA manuals on training militias stressed on, or any military history book in that regard, it's that soldiers need to be fed and supported. Or they'll find ways to meet those needs without you.

[Protostome]

Are you saying that every militia and army use hospitals as a base from which to wage war? (e.g. firing rockets, artillery shells, etc)

[n4r9]

There is a severe lack of construction materials in Gaza. My guess is that Hamas has a choice between using what's left for tunnels, or losing the war.

[Protostome]

That's a slight mix of cause and effect. There is a shortage of construction material because Hamas uses it not for the wellbeing of the citizens of Gaza, but for the construction of border crossing tunnels into Israel.

[n4r9]

Sure, that's Israel's purported reason for all of its blockades. The result, as in most cases in history, is that civilians bear the overwhelming brunt of the impact while the military resistance digs further in, switches to guerilla tactics, and becomes increasingly popular amongst civilians.

[throwaway6342]

They are deliberately targeting tent encampments. Given the IDF mil tech I guess they can deliberately target and destroy any kind of shelter.

May, 2024: At least 21 killed in Israeli attacks on tent camp near Gaza’s Rafah [4]

September, 2024: An Israeli strike on humanitarian tent camp for displaced Gazans killed at least 19 people [5]

December 2024: Seven attacks on tent encampments in the past two weeks kill 34 Palestinians including 10 children [2]

April 2025, Israeli strikes kill Palestinians in tented area for displaced in Gaza [3]

January, 2026: Israeli airstrikes targeted tents belonging to displaced people [1]

[1] https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/israeli-airstrikes-targe...

[2] https://www.un.org/unispal/document/ohchr-opt-press-release-...

[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yrl891j23o

[4] https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/5/28/at-least-21-kil...

[5] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/an-israeli-strike-on-huma...

[hsuduebc2]

That's why I mentioned that it was very shallowly understandable at the beginning. Not after few years of massacre.

Interesting part about your commentary is, that you completely ignored the West bank I mentioned. Place when Israel forces killed hundreds of children with sole reason or colonisation of land belonging to someone else. Or at least I never found any other explanation for behavior at the West Bank.

[throw310822]

How do you place millions of people in bomb shelters when your neighbour of a few kms away bombs you any time it wants from fighter jets? Have you not seen the footage of bombs dropped with no warnings in the middle of the streets, on residential buildings, on schools, on hospitals?

Israelis have bomb shelters because have ample warning and an enemy that is barely able to hit anything.

This blaming the victims of your own bombings for not taking shelter- actually accusing them to be responsible for their own deaths and those of their relatives, parents, wives, children, is some of the most revolting and shameless Israeli propaganda.

[Protostome]

You are wrong on many accounts, but let me address one in particular:

  >Have you not seen the footage of bombs dropped with no warnings in the middle of the streets, on residential buildings, on schools, on hospitals

The IDF has been distributing leaflets, text messages and other measures before bombings close to resedential areas. The IDF spokesperson even issues those alerts on Twitter. Which army in the world pursue these measures before hitting an enemy?

[throw310822]

"Israeli authorities and security forces deliberately targeted Palestinian children, resulting in genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in Gaza, and war crimes in the occupied West Bank, an independent U.N. inquiry said on Tuesday."

Literally the first paragraph of the article we're commenting.

[throw310822]

> Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine.

Not sure it's the same thing. Russians want political and territorial control in Ukraine, not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians". Israel wants to conquer the whole of Palestine (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem) to replace the native population with its own. There is no possible equal integration of Palestinians or their descendants into a Jewish state, not in a thousand years, and by design.

[hsuduebc2]

Well russians over the history resettled the native population numerous times, even resettle russians there. But the truth is they mostly want control for whatever reason they made up. Part of their propaganda is thet Ukrainians are basically confused russians so you got the point here.

But I wouldn't be sure about your claim regarding Israel. Even now there are millions of Palestinians with Israel citizenship. I understand the deeply rooted animosity with hamas but I do not understand the whole point of this type of colonisation of west bank. I suppose it have something to do with their extreme religious part of goverment?

You've had a point. Maybe it's more like Native Americans and colonizer type of situation.

[cicko]

Those Palestinians with Israeli citizenship are no longer allowed into Israel. That's my understanding after watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmE-WiC4eA

[throw310822]

> I do not understand the whole point of this type of colonisation of west bank

Besides the obvious religious/ ideological motivation, there's also a simple matter of territory: Israel is a small country and the West Bank and Gaza have a lot of value, both for the country as a whole (more space for more people, more natural resources, nobody to share with) as well as commercial value- think developments, real estate, industrial and agricultural areas, seafront properties, etc. Very hard to keep your hands off this bounty, for decades, when the rest of the world basically allows you everything.