[throwaway27448]

> If the US was attacked the way Ukraine was attacked, and foreign intervention was key to our survival as a nation, I expect the Pentagon would deploy foreign info ops in that situation. That doesn't seem like a heavy lift to me.

Yea, but Ukraine doesn't have any hope, so this is just an excuse to abuse people with zero upside. A recipe for corruption, looting, trafficking, weapons-dealing, and every other evil you can imagine.

The constitutional clause of refusing to cede territory seems to have damned Ukraine to death. Even if the state of ukraine gets the territory back (which seems extremely unlikely), the state is doomed and the people are fucked. The only route to saving the nation was to cede territory. It sucks! It's wrong! I know; but what other path was there?

regardless, I grieve for ukrainians and the people who live there.