[pants2]

Yeah, if they can fit an 8B model that's really good at improving the output by thinking, running at 16K tok/s on Taalas would be mind-blowing.

[le-mark]

Given this and the quality of open models, it makes no sense to me that there’s a future for Anthropic et all?

[james_marks]

Packaging a capability into a consumable form will still be business.

It's like web hosting; all the open source tools are there and free, and yet website tools, hosts, etc flourish.

[WhiteDawn]

It’s true, but hosting prices are still within spitting distance of rolling it yourself.

SOTA providers are expecting some level of margin. Companies everywhere have a tight eye on their AI bills right now.

The motivation is there if the models get good enough, even if it’s more painful.

[CamperBob2]

Exactly, it's like web hosting.

And I don't see a lot of web hosts with twelve-digit valuations.

[anuramat]

it's not like anthropic will stop improving their models