[ultrarunner]

> Dating the police is just such an astoundingly egregious violation of this principle

There are still quite a few people who think the police are the friendly government-provided customer service agents of life, although I've watched this viewpoint decline markedly over the last twenty years at least.

Locally, a woman went on a hiking date with a Phoenix cop and wound up dead [0]. Notably, the woman was from New England, while the cop was local and absolutely should have known better how dangerous conditions would be. The police, of course, investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong.

[0] https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/hiker-recalls-seeing-woman...

[kakacik]

A female high on meth gets disoriented and dies from heat exposure in the mountains. As per article she willingly separated from the guy whom she sent to the top of the peak "to continue to get pic for social media". He probably should have know better and just go down with her and call it a day, or not getting high on meth in dangerous environment in the first place but thats about it.

Unless you have a better article on that, that really ain't evidence of anything.

[close04]

A trained police officer leaves his obviously high (police can always tell even on first contact and from far away, right?) and exhausted hiking partner to return alone, with no water, in blazing heat, on an unfamiliar trail, to eventually die alone.

Peak police.

[ultrarunner]

She had low levels of amphetamines in her blood, consistent with her Adderall prescription. The only one bringing up meth is you. The guy was on the Brady list and the department never investigated his involvement.

Regardless, the point is that cops are very rarely models of good decision making or representatives of safety anymore. They shouldn't have access to blanket surveillance.

[0] https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/autopsy-rel...

[Hikikomori]

Meth and amphetamine are very different drugs, but a bootlicker wouldn't know the difference. She could also have been spiked and left to die by the cop, can't really know without a proper investigation, which the police never subject themselves to.

[dev_hugepages]

They are different drugs in the sense that methamphetamine will cause more serotonin release and will act longer than amphetamine, but they will both cause increase in blood pressure, increase heart rate and increase internal temperature. The rest of your comment is right though.

[Hikikomori]

Meth and amphetamine also have very different connotations.

[trehalose]

Connotations are by far the biggest difference between these two substances.

[picofarad]

One is routinely prescribed and the other is illegal, so yeah, I guess that's connotation, right?

[Hikikomori]

Yeah that is what I was getting at in my first reply. Amphetamine is a party drug, meth is what junkies on the street use. The guy I responded to said meth, which carries a lot more stigma, and together with all the other negatively charged statements he made is just abhorrent, basically calling her a junkie that deserved to die.

[mapotofu]

Her source of trust was instagram. The cop’s instagram led her to travel to Arizona and be with him. She was convinced by his instagram that she agreed to do all of this. That’s really dumb and it’s what you get playing stupid games with strangers on the internet.

[Hikikomori]

What is this nonsense. Instagram isn't an entity like that, she talked to a cop over a messaging service.

[sixothree]

Says the person using social media.

[mlrtime]

IDK, In my town that is what they are, they come when called, they are respectful, they live in the town they service.

I only see problems with police [generally speaking] in two scenarios.

1) Very large cities like NYC where police don't [cannot afford] to live in the area they work in.

2) Very small citie where the mayor, judge and sherrif are all related.

[mock-possum]

That sounds great for you, but the point is: what if they were not inclined to do those things?

What if they didn’t come when called? What if they weren’t respectful? What if they weren’t a part of your community?

What recourse do you have against cops?

[mlrtime]

It's great for me because I choose where I live. If they don't come I have a gun.