[hxii]

Any time I see one of these posts about models of this size a quote comes to mind – "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should".

Only a select few have the hardware required to run this to begin with, and even then the forecasted performance makes me wonder if it’s worth it at all.

[segmondy]

Completely worth it. At 6tk a second. If I can get 2 hrs of token generation. That's 2hrs * 3600secs * 6tk = 43200 tokens, at about 10tk to a line of code, that's about 4320 lines. Let's even trim it more and slice it by half. That's 2160 lines of code a day. Most professional programmers can't deliver that much consistently in a day.

The key to a model this large is (1) Use it to plan, generate lots of plan and farm out to a smaller model. Then for very specific and complicated portions precisely prompt for what you need.

[uberex]

Thats not a complete reasoning. Even frontiers need to revisit and fix things. Add 10 loops to that and it is 20 hours. Still great compared to a 2023 human, but why am I not just paying pocket money for Claude Pro instead?

[segmondy]

You're talking about agentic workflow. Agentic is cruise controls. Race car drivers shift manually for more precision and to go faster. If the only way you know how to code with AI is agentic, then you are putting yourself on a crutch.

[uberex]

You are saying you can one shot without loops on something like GLM-5.2?