[drnick1]

I'm inclined to agree when it comes to desktops or servers. However I feel like a laptop needs better security, including secure boot and full disk encryption, since you could lose it and cannot be sure what it went through even if you get it back somehow.

[saghm]

I do use FDE on my laptop, but not secure boot. I guess I'm not particularly concerned about whether someone will load a kernel onto my boot partition and then return the laptop to me. I could always just clear out my boot partition and then set it up manually again from an Arch USB, and that would still be far less hassle than turning in secure boot.