[Affric]

That’s not what you see when you wear the glasses, you will see a symbol, a series of symbols, a facsimile of life that you will convince yourself is real.

It’s not elf like, it’s not magic, it’s not a sense, quite the opposite, it’s replacing sensing and processing with reading. The death of aptitude, prowess, and the human experience.

[entontoent]

I feel like you would love the book "Simulacra and Simulation" by Jean Baudrillard. It agrees with you, and there's a sense in which you're right.

I wonder what you think our eyes are doing, though, and what you think magic is.

What makes it not elf-like?

We are creatures of the field and forest. The things that we invent are of the field and forest.

Are you saying that for you, the symbol translation needs to occur within cells and neurons instead of within a machine? Okay, well imagine we find a way to do that instead. Are we then more elf-like to you, because the senses would become part of our body?

Or are you saying that regardless of the path that we take to read wind and water with our eyes, we will never be like elves? That this could never be magic? Do you believe we need an External Being With Authority to grant us magic? Or a random, chaotic External Force like evolution?

It seems to me that regardless of when you "install" a sensory apparatus, before or after birth, your experience of the world will be similar (unless one or the other is more inconvenient for technical/social reasons).

If we can live in better harmony with nature due to enhanced senses that allow us to see the invisible motions of Earth, if we can identify birds and plants by sound and sight, if we can emit and process sonar, scan resources beneath the surface, better utilize and eliminate invasive species, spot predators from thousands of yards away (so they can remain in our ecosystem without being killed)... I mean that's magic to me?

[lmm]

> replacing sensing and processing with reading. The death of aptitude, prowess, and the human experience.

Replacing something all animals do with something uniquely human, perhaps the most important thing that sets us apart, is the death of the human experience?

[Affric]

Other animals use symbols, Koko clearly used symbols.

Not using our senses except to read symbols is the death of human experience.

[BeetleB]

> That’s not what you see when you wear the glasses, you will see a symbol, a series of symbols, a facsimile of life that you will convince yourself is real.

aka the "Digital photos aren't real photos!" argument.

[Affric]

No, it’s the “reading about exercise isn’t exercise” argument

[apsurd]

it’s not wrong. it’s what is unique about the AR medium in particular. “heightening reality” is whats in discussion. we can talk about it, but its not the sane discussion as photos, or video games, or VR.

[gavinray]

  > a facsimile of life that you will convince yourself is real

This already describes our base experience of "reality". It's a predictive sensory hallucination.

[entontoent]

Yeah, this is how I feel. "Reality" is already heavily mediated. Why are people so enraged that a person might want to mediate or enhance it further?

Often lately the same people who claim they value "creativity" and "art" seem to believe the the only valid forms of creative and artistic expression are the ones that existed when they were born. Everything else is degenerate art. I guess we've been here historically, though :/