[zahlman]

It's increasingly difficult to accomplish much on the Internet without JavaScript, though. This is an era where literal image hosting sites won't show you an image without it; where it's used to reinvent <details> tags, forms, even ordinary hyperlinks.

[jupr]

On the other hand, it's never been easier to design a place that doesn't need those things, or be confident the javascript is on your side.

javascript, like tor, is powerful in both directions depending on what it's used for.