[joe_mamba]

>A successful case might be Luigi Mangione.

Sorry, but how was that murder successful?

Did it achieve the effect that everyone is getting cheaper healthcare now?

OR, on the contrary, it only achieved that CEOs are now getting more anonymity and private security, while the plebs are getting more invasive law enforcement tracking like Palantir and Flock shoved up their ass to prevent them from doing something like that again?

[pepperoni_pizza]

> Sorry, but how was that murder successful?

There's many anecdotes of people who managed to get lifesaving or lifechanging treatments in the panic after the CEO got murdered. Obviously, anecdotes aren't data - but it is highly likely that even though one life was lost, many were saved.

[soco]

How would be the US now without Luigi Mangione? Would you have cheaper healthcare? Would Palantir or Flock disappear?

[inigyou]

Healthcare was much cheaper for several months after Luigi Mangione.

[JumpCrisscross]

Source?

[striking]

From https://www.newsweek.com/brian-thompson-muder-health-insuran...

> The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has prompted healthcare executives to say they will address growing frustrations among Americans struggling with access to and costs of medical care.

From https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/health/health-insurers-preapp...

> Months after the killing of a top health insurance executive unleashed Americans’ pent-up anger over denials of medical care, the industry announced Monday that it will take action to “streamline, simplify and reduce” the preapproval process.

However, from https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/04/health/insurers-prior-authori...

> However, multiple provider associations and patient advocacy groups interviewed by CNN say that little, if anything, has changed over the past year.

So, hard to say for sure.

[ngruhn]

> Sorry, but how was that murder successful?

Successful in winning over the public.

[krapp]

The public was already on Luigi Mangione's side in theory.

In practice however he didn't inspire further revolutionary action by the public, because they were pacified by memes. And that's why he's a failure.

[justinclift]

> how was that murder successful?

One less psychopath in charge of a US health care provider being around?

It seemed for a brief moment like some of the other psychopaths CEOs might start changing things for the better.

But you're right, when there wasn't a wave of "finding out" for other health care CEOs they seemed to go right back to it.

[JumpCrisscross]

> in charge of

Please, he was a middle manager with a CEO title.

[joe_mamba]

>One less psychopath in charge of a US health care provider being around?

What kind of broken logic is this? What good did this do for you if the end result for you is the same or worse now? Other than feel good for vigilante vengeance than then backfires on you in the end. It's not like there's a shortage of CEOs to take his place and keep doing the same thing.

You're not in a comic book movie where if you kill the main "bad guy" then society magically fixes itself at the end, because there is no main villain here, society is broken not because of the decisions of one CEO, but because of a combination of decisions of thousands of people, factors and incentives accumulated over decades that lead to healthcare and other things sucking, and you don't fix it overnight by killing one guy, you instead just make it worse for everyone else who isn't a murderer.

You fix it by talking, campaigning, gathering people and voting, knowing that it will also take decades to undo, the same way as it took decades to get to this stage. That's the only way you enact change that will will guarantee bi-partisan buy-in and actually stick around for the long term. Policy changes implemented by populist movements under threat of violence rarely produce good outcomes that last.

[DrSiemer]

If the system is rigged heavily against you, relying on it to affect change does feel like a losing strategy.

The fact that such a large part of the population supports literal murder could also be considered a political statement. One that would not have been expressed so strongly without what happened.

So much of this madness could be resolved with a simple income cap. Musk’s wealth grew by $1 million per minute over the past year. Who can seriously argue that this is fair and balanced?

[Mainan_Tagonist]

Are you talking about income or actual wealth?

Your income may remain constant while your wealth rises significantly (say... because your investments are doing well, because you inherited... etc). The two are often confused when talking about (tech) billionaires.

[justinclift]

> What kind of broken logic is this?

It's not even slightly broken.

It's about the people responsible for destroying the lives of those they're supposed to be helping, instead abusing those people for personal gain.

Is that really something you think should keep heading in the same abusive direction it's been going for many years? :(

[joe_mamba]

>It's about the people responsible for destroying the lives of those they're supposed to be helping... instead abusing them for personal gain.

That's what the justice system is for. If you don't like the way it works, then vote to change it. Look how Luis Rossman is doing it for a good example.

But shooting people you don't like as vengeance for what you perceive is wrong, is some third world banana republic shit, and no such country where this is normalized is remotely safe or functional, look at Africa and parts of Latam.

You think you want that but you don't actually. IF you do sincerely want that, then I sincerely hope you get what you want, but both ways for you and only you, while the rest of us stay isolated as spectators.

[justinclift]

> third world banana republic shit

Welcome to America. Are you new here? :D

[inigyou]

what the justice system is for is redirecting anger by making people like you think the justice system is going to fix the things you're angry about

[calgoo]

Sorry the justice system is setup to protect them, not you. By putting fear in the leaders of these companies, and showing people that yes, you CAN actually stand up to their corrupt ways and beat them because in the end they are just people, even if they don't see you that way.