[Quothling]

I'm Danish and lars kragh andersen is a bit of a grey zone. He obviously goes over the line, he tried to put GPS trackers on the cars of ministers. He "stalks" their families, and dox their children online. He gave an interview on how he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed when he was a cop because he doesn't agree with the "war on drugs".

On the flip-side, he's sort of right. I assume that putting a GPS tracker on the car of our minister of justice is illegal, but that same minister (Peter Hummelgaard) is one of the key forces behind anti-encryption here in Europe. Similarily the politicians he stalk and harras are pro Palintir getting access to all our data, so Lars Andersen is sort of giving the politicians a taste of what they want to give everyone.

He goes way too far though. Especially if he actually wants change, the way he "protests" is directly damaging his own cause, since nobody is going to sympathise with harrassing children.

I suspect next time he'll have his cameras running with backup powers though.

[monegator]

> He goes way too far though

that's what activist have to do to shake people

[xiphias2]

I think the sim cards are more important: he wrote that Nest switched to local recording mode and the police took the evidence.

[N_Lens]

I expect he’ll be justified and vindicated in history if we end up in a global totalitarian prison planet scenario that seems to become more possible as the tech reaches that capability. “For the safety of the children” ofcourse.

[AnonymousPlanet]

What kind of history will a totalitarian prison planet write, I wonder.

[N_Lens]

1984 will be banned as being too inspirational, perhaps?

[pembrook]

I don’t think he goes too far at all.

If politicians are attempting to undermine your children’s right to privacy forever, and yet these same politicians don’t like when this is being done to their own children…it shows either an astonishing level of hypocrisy and/or stupidity.

Europe is filled with these types of authoritarian urbanites, who make decisions from an elitist “i know what’s best for you” attitude while eating 6 course dinners. This is the same class of European leaders who steered the regions entire energy/economic/social policy so bad that the whole European model of the last few decades is in slow collapse and fiscally unsustainable. Yet ironically, the most common phrase you’ll hear while eating these 6 course dinners is “sustainability.”

These people are some of the worst hypocrites on pretty much every topic imaginable and need to be called out for it.

[Quothling]

This is what I meant by the grey zone. I personally think it goes too far, but I agree with the point you make here. Where it becomes problematic is that the method does not get the point across to any audience which doesn't already agree with them.

Compare this to Jesper Graugaard, who is know locally as the "Chromebook-dad". He's been campaigning against big tech in our schools for like a decade, and after 6 years we recently had a ruling forbidding our cities from using Google services without proper data ownership agreements. He's obviously not the only party behind this, but he's a massive force in the agenda against non-EU tech in our schools. He does it through reform and political campaigning.

Jesper has wide public support, Lars is not viewed favourable. This story hasn't even hit our news, I've only heard about it here on HN.

[rexpop]

> he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed

This is an unequivocally reasonable approach. The prohibition of cannabis is a grotesque charade.

[dzhiurgis]

> Palintir getting access to all our data

Probably best thing that can happen to your country.

Edit: On a more bright side - at what point does the game of criminals masquerading as activists / journalists come to end. I remember listening to Flock founder say entire LA's or SF's police was being run by criminal gang. Reading some of the extremist comments here it seems the gangs made their way here too, trying to manipulate people.

[dmantis]

World is not black and white. Most people would probably prefer to live in a world with low-power petty-crime rings and ability to be free and safe apart from having their wallet stolen once in a while rather than with e.g. Russian-like state mafia country with enormous amount of power and ability to target everyone at every time for their families interests. When you have a destroyed social ladder and everything can be taken at any moment under few people control immediately because they just want it.

That's apart from the fact that in the palantir case you also invite foreign intelligence and CIA to your home.

[zx8080]

Sarcasm tag missing or is this serious?

[elric]

They're probably not being sarcastic. Wrong, and ppssibly evil, but not sarcastic. There are some weirdly big Palantir fans on HN. No clue what drives them, but I'm guessing they're not keen students of history.

[3stacks]

It falls under the "social outreach" line item I believe

[holistio]

...or Tolkien.

[dzhiurgis]

Nothing weird of wanting a working justice system. Defending child stalkers is weird.

[wartywhoa23]

Like leather-boot-head-stomping justice?