[irishcoffee]

Oh man, a petition. Now stage a walk out, maybe a protest. They’re all equally effective.

[supertroop]

If you think walkouts or protests don’t do anything, you might want to brush up on history. Or maybe discover it. Google is your friend. I mean everything from suffrage to organized labor to civil rights in the US was the result of massive coordinated action. You do know that right? Maybe even read up on Gandhi, or more recently French labor protests.

[refactor_master]

> Google is your friend

But really, it's more like tolerated business partner, right?

[soundworlds]

I've been using Kagi for the last year, and it is like an actually helpful business partner.

Even if you use another one, we need to break the myth that Google is the only option out there.

[Fnoord]

If you're not paying Google, you're the product. Same with Facebook. Both of these companies are data mining/harvesting and advertising.

I'm also a Kagi user, but the index they mainly use is Google's. So I am paying for a good UI, a couple of nice features, and a frontend/proxy.

The only independent index I am aware of, is Mojeek.

[irishcoffee]

If you think they’re effective in this current day and age you should also read the news.

Thanks for the sermon though.