[kelseyfrog]

These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this.

Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

[TacticalCoder]

> These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men.

I think people simply do find SUVs (which I don't like) convenient. Many women, including a huge number of moms, do happen to just love SUVs. Both in the US and in the EU.

In the EU SUVs are now approaching 60% of all cars sold (59.25% or so, latest numbers). You don't get such a market share by being mostly cars sold to men needing to "gender-affirm".

[bjt]

"SUV" is too broad a category. A RAV4 is an SUV. It's similarly sized to most of the SUVs I've seen in Europe. And a pedestrian getting hit by one would have a similar experience to getting hit by a sedan. It's nothing like the big Rams, GMCs or F250s with the high front grilles that are becoming more popular while also being far deadlier to pedestrians.

[tapoxi]

I drive an SUV. It's convenient!

A Ford F150 is fucking ridiculous in comparison, and larger than any truck I remember seeing growing up, and there's people with F350s for personal use.

One of them ran over and killed a kid outside a nearby children's museum. Those things are not safe.

[sublinear]

You might be the one saying this right now, but how old is this comment?

I don't think I've ever heard any man ever say that in real life, but even online it's probably been almost a decade since this was memed into the ground.

[kelseyfrog]

> I don't think I've ever heard any man ever say that in real life

Um, because men get weird when you point out the gender-affirming actions they do? Try it irl and see what the reactions are. There's a reason the only place free of physical intimidation is where this can be safely said.

Besides, how old is the privacy comment or the "parents should parent" comment we see dragged out on every kid's social media ban? It's almost like the age of the sentiment doesn't have any bearing on its relevancy.

[bediger4000]

You're right, I don't know why you're getting down voted. You e got my admiration for being brave enough to write this on HN