[BirAdam]

Nah. People actively voted for a guy who said no war. Then he got the USA into a dumb war. Just like all the rest.

Voting has objectively not produced the results that the people have wanted, and this is not new. Voting doesn’t work. Being “informed” changes nothing. The only way the hoi polloi can have any effect whatever is typically through rather violent uprising. This works for maybe a generation, and then it all starts falling apart again.

[inigyou]

People actively voted for a known serial liar, idiot, and warmonger who said no war.

[AnimalMuppet]

Well, voting doesn't produce the results you want when you vote for a liar. That doesn't mean that voting never produces the desired result, just that it doesn't in that condition.

[BirAdam]

Well, politicians are generally liars. Trump, Obama, Biden, Bush, Clinton, Reagan… we can go all the way back to McKinley and I could easily say that the campaign people voted for was not what was delivered. Even more, it was usually the opposite.