[miki123211]

They clearly specify that they accept IDs from most countries. This likely means that they've reached a deal (or hope that they'll reach one) with the US government that lets them share Fable with foreigners, but only as long as they know exactly who it is being shared with.

This is off-putting to the HN demographic, but won't change anything in practice. 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on.

[dgellow]

Persona already had scandals earlier this year:

- https://cybernews.com/privacy/persona-leak-exposes-global-su...

- https://hothardware.com/news/discord-drops-persona-after-use...

It’s off putting outside of HN

[andybak]

The Peter Thiel connection is especially toxic for a lot of people outside the US. Whether it's substantive or just optics doesn't make a huge difference.

[cloverich]

Its optics. Personas series D is from his fund. Rich guy tries to get richer is the primary take away.

[crote]

> 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on

Why? Is Claude really so much better that the additional hassle and privacy invasion is worth it? What's stopping people from switching to one of the dozen or so other AI tools?

Heck, considering the volatility of the LLM industry, shouldn't everyone already be using OpenRouter & friends to avoid getting screwed over by the model-of-the-week - making a switch absolutely trivial?

[0x3f]

Fable seemed pretty good, but the thing is, even having access to test the next model _and see if it's worth switching to it_ is worth the marginal hassle/risk of doing the ID flow. A lot of things now do KYC, so we're not really talking about a categorical shift in me sharing ID info with any company vs not. It's just one more app.

[matheusmoreira]

Subscription prices. Anthropic subscription can't be used with third party harnesses. OpenRouter would require me to pay API prices.

[chickensong]

This is the reason.

[cheonic52749]

> What's stopping people from switching to one of the dozen or so other AI tools?

I’m lazy.

I will simply upload my drivers license to Claude, and continue paying $200/month.

[calgoo]

Sure if you want to share your ID and information with Persona.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47140632

[rockskon]

That remains to be seen. Assuming the worst from the start discourages people from taking any action and is an imprudent way to approach political topics.

[vachina]

> 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on.

In a vacuum yes. But this space isn't vacuum, I'm going with path of least resistance.

[deepvibrations]

Completely disagree that 99% of people will just do it.

A lot of people are already skeptical of the frontier labs - I moved over to Claude from OpenAI when they bent over for the US government. And I'll certainly move on again if Claude start asking for photo ID.

[slashdave]

It's pretty obvious this has nothing to do with Fable